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Hi Bav
Can you please add Simon Thorogood simon.thorogood@xxxxxxx to the
invite list for these meetings.
Thanks and regards
Paul
RBS Global Banking & Markets Office: +44 20 3361 4837 From: loanwg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:loanwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bhavik Katira Sent: 06 October 2009 09:00 To: loanwg@xxxxxxxx Subject: Loan FpML WG Meeting: 6 October 2009, 1000-1100EST (London Time: 3-4pm) Dial-in
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28413758 Agenda 1.
Review updates to
the FpML Business Requirements document ? based on previous action items
below. 2.
Review updated
schema. 3.
Upcoming
documentation updates: 4.
Upcoming schema
updates: (Rename the attachment to a .zip
file and extract contents) Regards, Bhavik
Katira CEO TenDelta? Fresh
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provides business process consulting, technology design & education
services; specializing in the Syndicated Loan Market. Entrusted with engineering
innovative & logical solutions; we endeavor to deliver timely, robust,
cutting-edge solutions. Copyright ©2008-2009. TenDelta? LLC (US),
TenDelta? Limited (UK). All Rights Reserved. From: loanwg@xxxxxxxx
[mailto:loanwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bhavik Katira Minutes from 8 September
2009: Based on the feedback items in
the Agenda (we covered points 1-5), we have the following
actions: 1.
Add two new flags to
the Repayment Notice. Scheduled/Unscheduled & Mandatory/Voluntary. Define
any business validations that should be defined around these new flags. Ideally
we want to make these fields required in which case the working group and the
standards committee would need to approve. 2.
Similar to the
LoanContract structure, it has been proposed that the participationAmount should
be introduced within the Letter of Credit. The amount field would change to a
required choice block. The choice block would contain two elements: ?amount? and
?participationAmount?. 3.
Proposal to add a
required ?Prior Amount? to the LC Termination message structure. This would be a
backwardly incompatible change in which case the working group and the standards
committee would need to approve. 4.
The Prior LC and
Post LC fields are full descriptors of the LC structure. This message was left
purposely open ended. The message structure allows any change in the underlying
LC to be denoted. No change or action pending regarding this message
structure. 5.
GS have made some
recommendations around the rollover notice structure. Since these design
proposals are quite detailed it makes sense to discus these offline and then
present any structural changes back to the working group. 6.
The working group
had a discussion around market practices and it was agreed that we need a
separate forum which is comprised of both business and technical members. This
forum would work on the standardization of business processes. The example
discussed: during the life cycle of a facility, in what situations should a new
loan contract be defined vs amendment of an existing loan contract?? There are
many of these issues which should be documented, discussed and hopefully
standardized. The actions going forward: a.
Define the ?working
group?.
i.
Business members
from large institutions.
ii.
Technology vendors
and designers.
iii.
US and European
involvement. b.
Define a
Standardized Business Process requirements/issues/resolutions
document.
i.
Include a list of
business processes from both the Loan Servicing and Loan Trading
spaces.
ii.
Document should
define the different variations (either by region, institution or both) of a
given business process that exist today and a proposal for a standardized
business process that all should endeavor to follow.
iii.
A standardized legal
framework (or the issues around having different frameworks) should be included
within the document. c.
The FpML initiative
is somewhat dependent on this document (especially in cases where many different
permutations of a business process exist in the market
today). d.
The FpML working
group should be kept up-to-date on items discussed in this working group (via
the loanwg@xxxxxxxx distribution
list). Regards, Bhavik
Katira CEO TenDelta? Fresh
insight. Pure logic. +1.917.582.4574 new york +44.(0).7780.808732 london TenDelta?
provides business process consulting, technology design & education
services; specializing in the Syndicated Loan Market. Entrusted with engineering
innovative & logical solutions; we endeavor to deliver timely, robust,
cutting-edge solutions. Copyright ©2008-2009. TenDelta? LLC (US),
TenDelta? Limited (UK). All Rights Reserved. From: loanwg@xxxxxxxx
[mailto:loanwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bhavik Katira Dial-in
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28413758 Previous Review
Outstanding Items Review feedback from WG
members: 1.
[Repayments
(GS)] The Scheduled and
Mandatory/Voluntary repayments use the same message but I don't see anything
that allows us to distinguish between the different types (don't think Refusal
Allowed is for this purpose). Am I missing the flag that is used to
differentiate? 2.
[LC Issuance (GS)] The notice requires a
"Original LC Amount" which is the original at time of issuance. It also
requires "Global LC Amount" which is current value at a global level.
Firstly do we need original amount? Surely that should always remain the
same since this is the issuance notice. Secondly we need the lenders share but
don't have a place for this. To me it seems like we just need 1 amount
field and it should be of type "ParticipationAmount". 3.
[LC Termination (GS)] The requirements document
specifies that we should have the "Prior Amount" on the event. This is
important sine the "Current Amount" will always be 0. However, the
4.6 LCWD schema does not have this field. Is this an omission on the
schema? 4.
[LC Amendment (GS)] The schema requires the
"Prior LC". What is the reason for this and should it be an optional field
instead? 5.
[Rollover (GS)] 6.
[?Conversion Notice? Proposal (GS)] 7.
[?Commitment Adjustment? Proposal
(GS)] 8.
[Deal/Facility (BofA)] 9.
[Borrower/Guarantor (BofA)] 10.
[Deal Currency/Amount (BofA)]
Would an explicit dealCurrency /
originalDealAmount be more clear?
[BK]
The name change would be a non-backward compatible change but we can request
through the FpML committee. I agree that the structure you suggest is
clearer. 11.
[Syndication Lead (BofA)] 12.
[Credit Agreement Details (BofA)] 13.
[Contacts (BofA)] 14.
[Facility Base Type (BofA)] 15.
[Default Status (BofA)] 16.
[Minimum constraints (BofA)] 17.
[Consent Types (BofA)] 18.
[Additional Facility Dates (BofA)] 19.
[Multi-Currency Flag (BofA)] 20.
[Sublimits (BofA)] 21.
[LoanContract/LC Trade Ids (BofA)] 22.
[Trade Structure Design (BofA)] 23.
[Contact/Remittance Details (BarCap)] 24.
[Cancel/Modify Structures (Business
Requirement)] Regards, Bhavik
Katira CEO TenDelta? Fresh
insight. Pure logic. +1.917.582.4574 new york +44.(0).7780.808732 london TenDelta?
provides business process consulting, technology design & education
services; specializing in the Syndicated Loan Market. Entrusted with engineering
innovative & logical solutions; we endeavor to deliver timely, robust,
cutting-edge solutions. Copyright ©2008-2009. TenDelta? LLC (US),
TenDelta? Limited (UK). All Rights Reserved. From: loanwg@xxxxxxxx
[mailto:loanwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bhavik Katira Dial-in
details: US: + 1 (888) 481 -
3032 Intl: + 1 (617) 801-
9600 UK: 0800
904-7961 Participant Code:
28413758 Agenda -
Review updated trade structures. -
Review cancel/modify structures. -
Review feedback from WG members. Regards, Bhavik
Katira CEO TenDelta? Fresh
insight. Pure logic. +1.917.582.4574 new york +44.(0).7780.808732 london TenDelta?
provides business process consulting, technology design/implementation &
education services, specializing in the Syndicated Loan Market. Entrusted with
engineering innovative & logical solutions, we endeavor to deliver timely,
robust, cutting-edge solutions. TenDelta?
Limited is a company registered in England & Wales. The Company registered
number is 06285903. The registered office is 3 Francis Road, Harrow, Middlesex,
HA1 2QZ, United Kingdom. From: loanwg@xxxxxxxx
[mailto:loanwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bhavik Katira Minutes from 4 August 2009
Meeting: -
Scope &
priority o
Updated to include
modification/cancellation messages earlier. Next steps: discuss the requirements
within the business working group and understand what modifications can be
performed with respect to each of the notification messages that have already
been defined. Document the specific requirements (if any) within the business
requirements document. o
Cash flow messages.
The concept here was to include a generic structure which basically defines the
overall cash flow which is taking place on any business event. This was
mentioned as something that participants are ?unable? to go-live without.
-
Review of the
updates to the requirements document (v1.39). o
Trade structure
presented: §
Deal
Trade §
AllocatedMultiFacilityTrade §
MultiFacilityTrade §
FacilityTrade §
LoanContractTrade §
LcTrade §
DelayedCompensation o
We should
potentially look to trying to integrate the loan trade structure more closely
with the FpML OTC derivatives generic trade structure. o
Within the interest
accrual and fee accrual sections of the trade structure we should have a delayed
compensation amount for each accrual. These amounts will correspond to the
overall delayed compensation associated with the facility being
traded. -
Usage of Identifiers
for all message types. o
We should publish a
document which outlines the usage of the various identifiers within the current
message structures e.g. Message Id, Event Id, Conversation
Id. o
An additional option
was to include a version identifier within a message to enable better tracking
of modifications/cancellations in the future. Regards, Bhavik
Katira CEO TenDelta? Fresh
insight. Pure logic. +1.917.582.4574 new york +44.(0).7780.808732 london TenDelta?
provides business process consulting, technology design/implementation &
education services, specializing in the Syndicated Loan Market. Entrusted with
engineering innovative & logical solutions, we endeavor to deliver timely,
robust, cutting-edge solutions. TenDelta?
Limited is a company registered in England & Wales. The Company registered
number is 06285903. The registered office is 3 Francis Road, Harrow, Middlesex,
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